MKULTRA: What I Learned About Mind Control from Clients

MKULTRABack in the 1990’s I had a psychotherapy practice in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Since the area was home to the U.S. Atlantic Fleet, I saw many patients from military families. My clinical specialty was Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), which is how I came to treat two women who had been part of an experimental and secret government mind control program dating back to the 1950’s.

Neither woman knew of or had met the other, and both had been referred to me at different times over a two year period. Yet, the information that came to light for both was so similar that it couldn’t be dismissed as delusional fabrication.

Both women claimed that they had been used during childhood for covert spying by some faction of the U.S. government. This was done by creating dissociative identities, as children, to safeguard classified information that would then be delivered by the child and its handler. I would later have a name for this program and its various offshoots. They were all part of what is now known as the “Mother of all Mind Control” CIA programs—Project MKULTRA along with the subprogram PROJECT MONARCH.

Because most MKULTRA records were deliberately destroyed in 1973 by order of then CIA director Richard Helms, it has been difficult, if not impossible, to gain a complete understanding of the more than 150 individually funded research sub-projects sponsored by MKULTRA and other related CIA programs. But the damage lives on.

Both women I saw were involuntarily recruited before the age of eight. This is an important factor. Thecould-military-mind-control-get-out-of-hand-video--85127ffe70 personality is still forming and has more plasticity before age seven. Severe physical, emotional, and/or sexual abuse before that age will have profound effects on the laying down of neuronal pathways as well as how memory is stored. Multiple personality disorder happens during childhood as a defense coping mechanism to deal with trauma. Despite public or medical opinion, it is not rare. This dysfunctional coping mechanism may become more noticeable during adulthood, but it starts in childhood, not in one’s adult years. This personality split off into an alter personality occurs to save the child from ego annihilation and insanity. In their eyes, it happened to someone else (the alter personality), not them.

Alter personalities can be induced under the right circumstances at a young age, and the people behind MKULTRA had to have known this in order to create covert childhood spies. What better way to transport information then hide it inside a child alter’s mind, which could only be retrieved on the other end by hypnosis or some other de-programming means. Who would suspect a child or take them seriously? It was quite a diabolical plan.

ADHDdrugsAcademicMy clients’ stories had so many similarities, it was beyond mere coincidence:

Both women were born and raised in Virginia and came from military families where a family member was involved in military intelligence work. This keeps the test subject close to home and able to be easily monitored. Oftentimes, a military family member becomes their “handler” and the one who transports them to and from an information retrieval operator.

Both women had memories of sexual abuse by participants in MKULTRA. (These memories were not retrieved under hypnosis.) They both claimed to have been sexually abused by Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, George Bush, Sr., Ronald Reagan and Bob Hope. This sounds totally implausible, unless those doing the abuse wore realistic masks to protect their identity. Picking famous people to hide behind, guarantees the victims will never be believed later, should they tell. (But then again, I may be wrong, and some of these luminaries may have been complicit in this secretive government program. Time will tell as what is hidden or Dark eventually is unmasked by the Light. )

Both drew similar pictures of equipment and/or devices used “to not tell.” Phallic symbols, drugs, and poker-like instruments “that burned” seemed to be prevalent.

When each women came close to revealing something secret and/or taboo, suddenly a new personality would come out and shut down the whole process. In the dissociative field, these are known as “scrambler personalities.” They are programmed into the person’s mind to block off memories and, sometimes, even report back to a handler for re-programming.

Each women remembers being taken on night-time trips by a handler, or nice person, to meet someone in a distant place. Sometimes air travel was involved. Sometimes they remembered where they were taken, other times they only remembered being returned home after a blank period of time away.

Both feared for their life by seeking therapeutic help.

Let me just preface here that I don’t know any military secrets and both these women were too damaged and psychologically tortured to stay in treatment. They each had a fear of being punished for “telling,” which was undoubtedly part of their mind control programming. I am not the only therapist to have encountered these types of stories. The victims are still out there, but are now adults with severe psychological problems. Over the years I’ve heard enough strange stories in my therapy office to not readily dismiss such claims. Some have proven to be true.

There was no secondary gain for either of the women trying to obtain help. They were plagued with nightmares and memories trying to bleed through to the surface after so many years of holding their secrets. While MKULTRA was allegedly shut down in 1973, it hasn’t stopped other mind control related work by our government.

Many experiments dealing with the disruption of brain function for human control are still very much real:

Scientists are researching the construction of super soldiers that feel no pain, terror and do not suffer from fatigue. The Pentagon allocated $400 million to this research.

Scientists are using electrodes to direct people’s movements by sending a signal from a mobile phone, which stimulates a muscle in the leg, showing them the direction they need to go in. They claim it is to replace the need for an external GPS program. I sure hope the Apple Watch doesn’t have this hidden program installed.

A DARPA program conducted by The Center for Strategic Communication at Arizona State University experimented with “Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation” (TMS) to remotely combat dissent and extremism. TMS stimulates the temporal lobe of the brain with electromagnetic fields in order to “turn off” reactive centers in the brain. While those in the psychology field may use such experimentation to help combat depression and anxiety, DARPA’s sole goal has always been for defense and weaponry use.

I once worked for an altered-states research lab in Northern California which used alpha brainwave entrainment programs for consciousness exploration. I learned that the institute had been coerced into training several elite Green Berets groups for mind control or, as the military termed it “affecting one-mind cooperation in the field.” tv-mind-control

One only has to look around to see the signs that we are already slaves to mind control. We sit in front of TVs for hours being bombarded by messages, both subliminal and overt to buy products, take drugs, or show us what we are missing or might never have. We become immune to violence and killings. We are glued to our mobile devices, whipping them out at the first second of inactivity, to amuse and district us from life going on all around us.

Can we escape it all?  We can certainly try.

UPDATE:  Canadian Government Quietly Compensates Daughter of MKULTRA Victim


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Dr. Kathy Forti is a clinical psychologist, inventor of the Trinfinity8 technology, and author of the book, Fractals of God

16 replies
  1. Rebecca Ann Hale
    Rebecca Ann Hale says:

    this is really interesting Dr. Forti. I would love to communicate with you further, about this over my personal email but I understand you are a ‘public figure’ and could be very busy. i was born in January of 1961, and throughout my life have been directly effected by the MK Ultra program and by extension have experienced loss of income, loss of health, and have unwillingly been exposed to extreme situations. i am looking for victims-rights and remediations, through proper legal channels and with the correct supporting evidence. your testimony on this page could be helpful for my case, so thanks for posting / bringing my attention to your work.

    • whisperingsage
      whisperingsage says:

      My heart goes out to you Rebecca. Reading and listening to Cathy o Brien and Sue Ford were heartbreaking. Look up Ted Gunderson on YouTube. He dedicated his life to this cause starting with the McMartin daycare tunnels. I even looked up John Walsh and it looks like he’s afraid to really reach out to the possibility his son may be alive and locked into this network. Look up Johnny Gosch, there is a lot on this. I haven’t yet figured out which groups are fronts for the evil network and who are genuine.
      The betrayal of parents to me is the most disturbing. Handing their children over to these monsters is mind boggling. Right now, prayer is a must, but pizzagate is starting to wake people up.

    • Jennifer Ayres
      Jennifer Ayres says:

      There are many victims. Nowadays they are calling themselves Targeted Individuals. If you have Facebook, look up the TI groups so you can find the others.

  2. Cyndi McKenna
    Cyndi McKenna says:

    Cathy O’Brien has an autobiography of her time in MK Ultra program, it is difficult to read and the co-author helped craft it to not trigger certain things in others. “Trance Formation of America”. She and her mom were rescued. May all those involved in those programs be blessed with healing.

  3. lilly
    lilly says:

    Hi Dr. Forti, I stumbled upon your website while doing research on the truth behind crop circles but this blog post really caught my attention. I believe there are people out there sending frequencies through technology platforms to control us, I for one believe I have been a target for this. A few years ago, certain even very normal situations send me into great stress and anxiety for sometimes absolute no reason, I never had these experiences happen to me before. I used to dabble in psychedelic drugs, I believed it would open my mind, I wanted to see beyond, and instead what I did see was the vibrations of everything not understanding at the time what it all meant then. But, I do not doubt that the drugs alone is what made it much easier to alter my personality. I believe it was my strong personality and being that I am a strong believer in my beliefs led me to be the perfect target. A few years ago, around the time of when this frozen state of anxiety started to take hold I was writing a script on big pharma altering our frequencies to control, it was mostly science fiction but I don’t think that it is so much fiction now anyway, I was also very open about this story and I believe this is also a reason for me being a target. Is big pharma behind this? Yes, I believe so. They get you hooked on their prescription meds, they want you to dabble in harder drugs, mess up the circuits in your mind and they profit because you believe their drugs are the sure way to be “normal” again. This situation has made me stronger in my beliefs and I have altered my frequencies back to my natural rhythm so I can naturally be who I was always meant to be. I do not dabble in strong drug usage anymore, as this awareness is more important then risking the possibility for ‘mind control’ to happen again. Without this experience actually happening to me, I would never know what is actually occurring in the world and why others feel the way they do. In hindsight, this is exactly what needed to happen for me to do what’s right on a greater scale. I wanted to know why these terrible things were happening to people around the world. Now I know exactly what is wrong with the world because it happened to me and I can fix it. To me the mind is a beautiful thing, I will never let it go to waste. Or anyone else’s minds for that matter. I hope this will open people’s eyes to the truth.

  4. Teach
    Teach says:

    Whenever I read a story of deep corruption like this I am filled with anger and sadness. I get angry that there are people who think a program like MK Ultra is necessary. Some probably even think it is innovative or useful. They passionately lobby their superiors for its creation implementation and execution. The order of the day is control. Many nations are ushering in demagogues (america France Brazil russia China north korea). The people are lost. They don’t know where to look for answers. I get sad because I imagine how amazing it would be if the governments of Earth put all the energy and resources they put into controlling and hurting people into developing alternative energy or health care programs. Those in power now are teaching us a massively important lesson summed up thusly: “don’t be like me”. The generations that will rise to power MUST NOT repeat the mistakes of their parents and grandparents. Mk ultra is just another page out of the “how not to manual”.

  5. Fern Lehmann
    Fern Lehmann says:

    I believe I was effected by a form of this brainwashing in the late 60’s and the 70’s. I think this ran dep in our family, which was known for their Deacons, Pastors, and other men in positions of power. I believe certain members of our family were more attractive to the controllers, because of certain traits or abilities.

    I suffered emotional, mental, and physical abuse at the hands of a family member. I didn’t even remember it all until after a triggering event 2.5 years ago.

    The good news is that I felt God’s call on my life at 7 and asked to be baptized. I believe my faith protected me from the most harmful effects of these techniques. I was somehow able to fight the worst parts and I believe God protected me in many ways!

    Things I experienced included sexual abuse, sleep deprivation, pain, verbal abuse, mental and emotional abuse, projection, gaslighting, triangulation, circular conversations, lying about my actions, scapegoating, and assumptions, and misrepresentation on a large scale, blaming and nitpicking, etc.

    After a triggering event, I began to have flashbacks of my childhood and there were enough confirmed details, which happened for my counselor to be sure the events I remembered were very real.

    My abuser also stole passwords and deeply personal information from my internet accounts. This went on for several weeks after I spent 7 weeks caring for my abuser. I was able to recognize what was happening and put a stop to it.

    This is the same person who thought I should become a Job’s Daughter and I refused when I realized they were altering scripture! I was 10 and I know God protected me and warned me not to participate!

    It was during the last event that I realized this person was using some phrases repeatedly and it was an attempt to trigger previous brainwashing!

    I walked away and never looked back! I want nothing to do with this person or the techniques used! I truly believe God protected me from ritual abuse and showed me a better life!

    • Nobody
      Nobody says:

      Person I care about very deeply is under this effect. There’s nothing I can do to stop the Handler from manipulating this person. Unfortunately I believe this technique is falling into hands of the criminal underworld. It makes me sad only because I know the person and care about them. That one point in time I would have thought of it as an ingenious way to be a criminal. Now it makes me feel very dark about stopping these behaviors…

  6. SJAAK
    SJAAK says:

    Same MKULTRA stuff happening for over 10 years in Sittard and Geleen in The Netherlands. It’s 2018 now. They don’t stop. The local intelligence services AIVD and MIVD are consentual. But it’s the big American-British agencies who run our world. These are not conspiracy theories.

  7. J Andrews
    J Andrews says:

    Great article and also great comments from readers! I’m so glad to see more people, especially professionals like Dr. Forti, taking this issue seriously. I can’t do a better job than any of the previous posters in terms of laying out details. I hope that Dr. Forti will revisit this topic at some point. It would be great if we could all figure out how to get compensation for what was done to us. They usually don’t just dump you once they’re done but instead build in what’s called a “deterioration program” so that you end up broke, potentially homeless, etc. Most MK Ultra survivors also later become subject to the targeting process involving experiments with gang stalking and electronic harassment. I’m struggling currently with what feels like programmed dreams. Prior to that I was going through a flood program recalling the trauma memories and pieces of classified information, but even that is part of deteriorating when you can’t stop it.

  8. Kerry Diamond
    Kerry Diamond says:

    This is spot on, but the victims here resemble the “perps” who have been constructed here from almost 50000 people into multiple personalities, whose alters have been created out of once very good people. The innocent alter is protected from knowing the innocent’s actions, with a deep program of symbolically induced fear programming, with power symbols and stories, which can be rationalized invisible under a “new way of life”(fixed income to every assailant double the victim( while victim is urged to “be a man” and work, (to lose check and then “suddenly” lose job of course) and other pleasure garners, to ensure perfect denial of fear motivating ego’s need for attack, to affect a “predator” persona, which displays pleasure while inflicting sadism and feeding alter ego which denies empathy, with plays designed solely as functions of a classic predatory sociopathic manipulator’s ploy, to evoke fear/sadness/anger/grief/severe and excruciating humiliation and total devastation of emotional centers, like 100 people singing happy birthday next door, as a personal trigger symbol at timed moment of ironic pain causation (while target is right at an extremely dark realization, drained of the ability to understand anything but mind numbing and explosive pain that is stifled and transformed with a petitions significance into borderline assertive rebuttal)
    that says collectively “we don’t care if you die and we won’t sign it”. Roars of laughter, non contextually feasible bouts of intense anger, and distraction with non relavance or absurdity to symbol worship, are some scrambler personality paths from the victims induced pain realization by assailaint and all stacked guilt, away from innocent back to alter’s “reversed” empathy center, which treats these signals (pain/sadness/grief/anguish) as heroin, and feeds the scramblers pleasure towards predatory glee, instead of their blocked off innocent’s normal reaction, which would sympathize for the most disturbing and violent, suspicious, distant, hateful unpleasant and unknown random sympathant from anywhere, rather than the ti anyday, whose death would bring laughter. Perps alter is programmed with a sociopath’s reverse empathy center, which causes pleasure from victims pain. Pleasure in victim experienced from pain that would be symbolically but materially released from perp actions causes pain in perp which scrambler then blocks realization of and almost never happens. Scrambler violently defends from guilt realization after predatory glee and all other alter routines are exposed with anger, that reflects the pain induced from initiation and fear programming, which directs with pain denying pleasure cover not to cross lines(helping, without making it for the group’s subtle degradation, telling, associating positively with victim and loving . Even when major assaults are not active, and minor ones are still a constant source of dealt with pain, the infliction is severe with total absolute uniform degradation ostractication and isolation, broken by symbolic periodic “plays” to dangle unachievable hope with a fake woman who at first is real. The depersonalization of the target for them is accomplished for the perp alter with a constant negative reassociation, with phrases designed to remove ownership of assaults through euphemism of true sadistic purpose, and group symbol ownership, which also scrambles with group symbol authority the derealization of pain causation guilt. Years of guilt and money earned through extreme violation and psychological destabilizing degradation. The entire town is given double the money he gets, including all the most severely addicted and violent homeless to felons and librarians, and has for years during his trauma induced amnesia been conditioned, with fear programming, pleasure/pain reversal, symbols and stories, to block realization of, and induce(only in victim) blatantly desired trauma, the built up guilt that the scrambler protects from realization is protecting original from realizing the tis constant, excruciating pain that they are 24/7 responsible for, enforced constant isolation and exclusion, while assailant groups are always nearby, to direct assaults to the lone sufferer with total display of misdirected feigned activity which covers the assault. If a girl was to cross the line of fear programming(be kind, pay him back for the years of pain, allow him to heal with actual sincerity and closesness, their entire circle would be bullied into bullying her, the money she once lived on from derealizing his torture and participating in would be gone, and meanwhile she will be taunted, tortured, and destabilized, while his every move is filtered for her by a “handler” who is psychotically in control of her emotions, and forces her thinking to be psychotic. She doesn’t even know, she accepts the thinking her accepted consensual rapist forces to her fear programmed and misdirected mind unquestioningly, to the sick and violent despair of the victim who cannot hear and does not know him. Love for him is expressed as forbidden, which causes more agony than can be expressed and is derealized as plausibly deniably a joke, by ti to himself and her. Years go by however, and each one always proves to only be a symbol of death as the only purpose she will serve without receiving fear shocks or enticement to induce severe cruelty is to be a symbol and leave. If a woman is met who has no game waiting specifically to injure, she will be or has been provided with only conditioning to retreat, create distance and block sympathy with hatred from fear derealized. The entire society has been made psychotically cruel and apathetic towards only one person, who is crushed and broken as can be by the weight of constant, unending, all around, plausibly denied but blatantly expressed hatred blocked from realization by the unaware “innocent” person, who treat all others maybe even personal enemies with more respect. They have all been programmed deeply, so many years after the shock and his mk ultra amnesia was finally broken(following a discreditation campaign during “sleep”) To break programming and for the ti to miraculously experience the person that anyone else would, the “innocent” is the only hope for survival, in a world absent of a single unbroken mind. To keep her from being reprogrammed and open. To have her speak all secrets and cross every fear program would be the real goal. Death is permanent, and no matter how painful this absurd, bizarre, heartstabbing and excruciating torture is, there is always the future. Hope, will never happen, they have been deeply forced to engrained those words without any backing or foresight, just a need to derealize a fear motive, and with a repetitively forced verbiage associated with fear symbols no doubt can be seen in such a wild and preposterous claim, that any opposition is futile, research is bad and the future is known(really a fear program never to undermine “master’s” power, their mind doesn’t even know or process the possibility of concerning themselves or postulating any thought to doubting claims of infinite power, predestined future, eternal life, and riches beyond measure, fanciful dreams that if ever undermined would only with shock bring realization of the inverse symbol induced fear, degradation and torture trauma, that was applied and escaped by derealization with the “safe” fanciful absolute notions guarding from trauma. Try to convince them to truthfully consider details and they are not concerned at all and seem not to want to even try and care because of anxious fear and pain covered with “safe” assertions(lies) that you couldn’t take from them without hurting them, they are one of the pillars on which the “alter” rests, which is happily unaware of the past, and since then redirected and scrambled so much trauma, inflicted and received, that removal of the pillar would both provide fear from just “daring” to consider questioning power, and the shock of all trauma derealized from alter becoming realized with the innocent. No thoughts about reality, just DONT TOUCH MY PAIN(I mean I’m cool you’re not if you question god).
    This is the beginning of the end of times, I have never seen so many minds become so sick in unison and could never imagine daily tragedy would be my lot until consolidation of opposition(the programs goal to calculate the end of) is achieved and bad is restored to bad, good is good again. To imply the good guys obvious future win and take back of our country from scourge is sadly still knee jerk irritating to acolytes, but as much as the town can be unmanipulated from illness, there is hope here and I know it. I wouldn’t be here otherwise. May you reach your perps with the clearest open and reflective mind, to heal them from a sickness which, like NPD, is very hard to treat and is blocked with it’s own action from observation by victims of the NPD(perps) to see themselves past the trauma blocking that threatens ego dissolution to their desire for treatment. Blind to blindness. HOPE is all we have and courage. NO SLAVES, BODIES, OR VICTIMS. We will break through the MKULTRA HELL ON EARTH PROGRAM AND THERE WILL BE HUMANS THAT WALK THE EARTH AGAIN.

    • Kathy J. Forti
      Kathy J. Forti says:

      Thank you for your deep insights. I have received so many responses to this article over the years. Most I did not approve for publishing in order to protect the names of those who claim they were victimized by this incredibly disturbing chapter in man’s history. Evil does exist, but so does the Light. There is HEALING HOPE for us all in the end.


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